I have mentioned on here a few times that I have been going through things that we don't need anymore (I tend to hold onto everything that crosses my path, so there is a fair amount of stuff!) and selling them bit by bit. 


This has worked out fabulously for me because each week my garage is a little less crowded, and each week we have a little money to spread around.  The goal is to get the garage empty except for holiday/sentimental or necessary items, the laundry items (W&D, iron and ironing board), and my work out stuff (which I guess I should use some time, as it is currently "like-new, barely used!").


The problem I have encountered is a nagging war of ethics within me.

First, is the idea of selling things.  People need things.  People who can't really afford to buy them.  I have also been the recipient of a lot of really great and useful things that others have freely given to me as a gift.  At times I feel like I am doing something wrong by selling items instead of donating them or giving them away.  I have had many people give me back stories as to why they need the item I'm selling, with the intent of the message being, "I really need this.  You should just give it to me."  As of yet, I have only given 1 thing away (and boy, oh, boy did people come out of the woodwork to buy this nice, but damaged (by the movers!) item).  So there is guilt about selling v. giving away. 

Then there is the issue of value.  I try to assign a price to something that reflects what I paid for it, what it currently sells for, the condition it is in, considering use and any problems or flaws the item might have.  I try to price things at a fair price that is a bargain for the buyer, but doesn't disregard the value of the item.  Sort of a bit more expensive than garage sale, but less than thrift store or retail.  I also price things a few dollars higher than what I would accept, giving the buyer the opportunity to ask for a better deal if they feel like the price is higher than what they want to spend.  And sometimes I feel like that's wrong.  Not that I price things TOO high, but just knowing that I am selling something to someone for my asking price when in reality I would have gone down a little bit had they only asked. 

I have had one person get ridiculously mad at me and essentially stalk me via email because I wouldn't sell something to her for a tiny fraction of what it was worth.  She asked me what the lowest I would accept was, and I immediately knocked $25 off the price (my asking price on this item was very good for the actual value of it, but it was something I would part with for quite a bit less).  She then offered to buy the item for less than 1/4 of what I was selling it for.  She was rude and demanding in all our correspondence, despite my civility, so I told her the price - $25 off and no less was firm.  In reality, I would have knocked another $10 off if she hadn't been such a bitch.  But I am not hard up for crack money and the item is not taking up a lot of space, so I can hold onto it indefinitely.  I have had many inquiries, and it will sell eventually, although she reminds me via email that she is delighted to know that I have not sold it yet.  Woe is me that I did not take her ridiculous offer. 

Should I feel guilty that I'm not selling something I really don't need or want for FAAAAAAR less than what it would cost at retail?  I mean, should I just essentially give it away?

Another issue is packaging/marketing.  I try to make my items appealing.  Groupings that make sense and are useful.  Photos that are appealing.  Descriptions of uses for the item and value (my asking price v. retail price).  Selling items in season or when in demand to maximize my ability to get them sold, and to get them sold for a good (to me) price.  Is that dishonest? 

And finally, I am uncomfortable when dealing with many offers for a single item. I go by first come, first served.  I don't do the "whoever offers the most" thing.  Sometimes people are interested at different times, but one follows through more quickly.  I always feel bad for the others who intended to buy but didn't respond quickly enough.  I had a lady who wanted to buy something but when it came time to arrange for pick up she told me she had to wait until payday, so she could pay me half upfront and then I could hold the item for a few days and then she would come pick up and pay the balance.  I had to turn her down, and I felt bad about it, but it was just too complicated for me.  I didn't want to hold her money and NOT give her the item, but I wasn't going to give her the item and then wait and see if she paid me the rest of the money.  Later that day I sold the item outright to someone else who had the money.  I did feel guilty about that, but I really don't want to deal with weird issues.  I also only accept cash because I'm not willing to take a risk with bouncing checks. 

And yes, I know I have to report this as income.  That's not an ethics issue I'm confused about.  Everything else, however, is negotiable.   Make me an offer.

 

 

 


Comments
on Apr 29, 2008
I'd like to put a bid on that . . . Ummm . . .

ONE MILLION DOLLARRRRRS.
on Apr 29, 2008
Cash only, please. Call me to arrange pick up.
on Apr 29, 2008

I suggest not feeling any guilt about how you do business.  Everything I've read sounds like a win/win for people who want the item and have cash and your family.

You all just moved and it ain't cheap to set up a new household.  You shouldn't be giving anything away for free at this point.  Family first.

If someone gives you something and you don't need it, SELL IT!  I don't see this as an ethical issue at all.

Anyone who asks a military SAHM with 3 kids to give them something for FREE needs to be slapped.  Aren't they implying their desire to have the item for free outweighs your desire to provide for you family?

If you get a couple dollars more because someone didn't haggle, good for you.  They obviously thought they got a good deal or wouldn't have bought it.

As for the email stalker....I wouldn't sell it to her now if she came to the door with double the asking price.

Ok, I probably would..hahaha...but I'd be brisk with a "hurry up and get out" attitude.

on Apr 29, 2008
ONE MILLION DOLLARRRRRS.


Cash only, please. Call me to arrange pick up.


I'll have to break out the old pirrrate chest for that one . . . I'll see what I can do!

on Apr 29, 2008
Tova: I do tend to see things as my family first, but I still feel guilty about it.

I want to be the person that gives freely but gosh, I got bills to pay, haha.

LOL about the stalker. I may just post our correspondence here for laughs.

SC: Pirate today, eh? Is your favorite movie JAAAAARRRRRhead? Or did you not see it because it's rated AAAAAAARRRRRR? Haha.
on Apr 29, 2008

True story...

I had a garage (okay, living room) sale (I didn't have a garage) once. I had two very heavy, and very UGLY brass lamps I "inherited" from my grandmother. (You know how it it when you're starting out...you get everyone's leftovers.) So, I decide to add these two lamps to the sale, and I put up a sign in between the lamps...$30. This one particularly rude shopper (probably the SAME lady from your story) is perusing my goods bitching about this and that trying to barter every item as if it were an auction. Then, she comes to the brass lamps. (Now, I'm already a little pissed off at this time, and I've put up with about all the crap I want to take with this "big itch" (as T likes to refer to them), and the conversations goes as such:

BIG ITCH: Are these really brass?

ME: Yes.

BIG ITCH: Hmmm.

ME: [Staring at her just waiting for her to next move.]

BIG ITCH: Will you take $50 for them? (Now, remember, I'm asking $30 for BOTH.)

ME: [Without the slightest hesitation, but responding with slow, careful thought.] Yeahhh. I guess I could take $50 for them.

BIG ITCH: I'll take them.

ME: [Horns starting to show from my scalp.] Oh, alright.

So, why don't you let me give you what you were asking, and then send her to me...and we'll split the difference!

on Apr 29, 2008
LOL, SH80!!! GREAT story!!

It's one thing to negotiate a price, but if you're going to be snotty and nasty right off the bat, who is going to care if you get ripped off! hahahaa.



on Apr 29, 2008
SC: Pirate today, eh?


Everrry day. Just feeling especially pirrratish lately. Can't rrreally explain it.

Besides, who doesn't love a pirrrate Che Guevara?
on Apr 29, 2008
Besides, who doesn't love a pirrrate Che Guevara?


If that comment doesn't make sense, clean out your cookies, log back in, and check out my new avatarrr.
on Apr 29, 2008

Hey Miss Thing!  I don't think you have anything to worry about.  I think you are being very fair.  You are asking a fair price and if the customers don't like it or think you want too much,  they can spend their money somewhere else.  Easy peasy.  I don't see a moral or ethical dilemna on your part at all.   I think you worry too much.  Just think of what a great deal those people are getting compared to full retail. 

on Apr 29, 2008

who is going to care if you get ripped off! hahahaa.

She probably sold them on the Antiques Road Show for like a grand, and the joke would be on me...except, I'll always have the story, which is...priceless!!!

on Apr 29, 2008
SC: I saw him earlier. And then I didn't. Haha. Weird.

LM: Thanks. I tend to agonize over these things in my head and can't seem to stop.

Although...I sold a lady a Persian-style rug set (area rug and scatter rug) at a cheap price the other day and I found the matching runner in the garage yesterday and told her she could have it for free. I am feeling happy about that, since I could have held it hostage for $5. Haha.

SH80: LOL. So true!! That's exactly what would happen to me!!

LW: I will definitely be donating what I don't sell. Before we moved I donated a big box of Isabella's clothes, because Adrian insisted. I didn't even get to go through it, but I am sure I could have made $$ of that stuff!! We also put a lot of stuff (porch swing, nice large desk, big plastic tub with outside toys, and other things) out for people to take. If I had known how easy it was to sell stuff, I so would have made a little moving cash off of that stuff.

The living room is blues and greens!!!

I am excited about my present!! Woohoo! You are so sweet!
on Apr 29, 2008

In these days of stressed economics, I say sell it if you can!  I also say stick to your guns on what your prices are, even when you discount willingly.  If you want to give it away, that's your choice and option too.  Definitely report the income, because you have some really mean people who would love to get you in trouble (out of spite).  Welcome to the world of business my dear!  I think you're doing ok!

on Apr 29, 2008

I say don't feel guilty at all.  Even if the items were given to you, they still have a value, even if you don't use them anymore.  As for the stalker, tell her about JU, get her to join, then let the rest of us sort her out.  She won't last long.