I came to this realization today as I was walking my children to school.  I saw a fat Soldier in his PTs with his fat knees and his chubby face and it just clicked.

All along I have tried to fight this because I get so annoyed by men, especially fat or otherwise physically less-than-ideal men, making negative comments about overweight women.  The beauty standards American women are held to are so obnoxious, and it was refreshing to think that at least one sex could still get by with being "real" and "average". 

I had it in my head that since I am no Jessica Alba, or Jessica Alba's slightly overweight, buck-toothed, but still kinda cute cousin, for that matter, I had no right to demand...or even appreciate...qualities like fitness in a man.  I even felt kind of wrong for having such a hot husband, and even more wrong when he would work out a lot and get buff.  It would be like having one awesome, perky breast and a sad little droopy bit of flesh with a diseased green nipple beside it.  Very uneven and just somehow...wrong.

But I like what I like, and you know what?  If ugly, flabby men can imagine themselves deserving the amorous attention of Angelina Jolie, then what's wrong with a size 12 goofball like me proclaiming that men with knee fat are unworthy of any perverted leering on my part?

I like that my husband takes care of his body.  I like that he's attractive.  And I would be less attracted to him (physically, anyways), if he put on a ton of weight and ended up a doughy weakling. 

I'm entitled to be shallow and adhere to double standards, too. 


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on Apr 08, 2007
Judas, Lucas, you are dense.

But it sure makes it fun to read.
on Apr 08, 2007

Hmm....I think that being physically attracted to somebody is important.  That is, at least if you want to be in a healthy, sex filled marriage.  I mean, if you don't find your mate attractive (whatever attractive is to you) then are you going to be hot for your mate all the time?

People can claim all they want that looks don't matter, but I just don't believe it. 

And, Lucas, it is more important to be attracted to the personality of your mate, but don't discount physical attraction.  Saying that it doesn't mean anything to you is just kidding yourself.

on Apr 08, 2007
First of all, being attracted to someone physically is NOT "superficial", Lucas, although I realize it's trendy to say so while you're in college, so I'll forgive you the obligatory college kid pomposity.

Secondly, I really doubt this is true. If you had someone come up to you whose body was covered with sores ooozing pus and who weighed approximately the same weight as your vehicle, I'm guessing you wouldn't give that girl a second chance, regardless of personality. You'd run the other way.

I have heard a lot of people brag on how they aren't hung up on looks, but I have never seen one of these people with a hideously ugly mate just because of their personality. Ever. John Merrick's phone never rang off the hook, ya know?


This is INSULTING? That's BULLSHIT, and you KNOW IT, Lucas. You just decided to flame away at me because you thought I wouldn't fire back.

But if that's the way you want it, so be it. I can flame away with the best of them.
on Apr 08, 2007
And, Lucas, it is more important to be attracted to the personality of your mate, but don't discount physical attraction. Saying that it doesn't mean anything to you is just kidding yourself.


Hey, believe whatever you want to believe (obviously). I said what i said, and i stand by it. It doesn't matter to me.

I'll have to see what i can find on asexuality, because it could help explaining what i mean.

~Gid~

Yes, I found it insulting; it was not a flame, so just coold down a second, alright? I'm not going to get into a flame war with you. As I said, if it wasn't an insult, then i apologize for understanding it the wrong way it was meant. You know as much as i do that misunderstandings are possible.

on Apr 08, 2007
Yes, I found it insulting; it was not a flame, so just coold down a second, alright? I'm not going to get into a flame war with you. As I said, if it wasn't an insult, then i apologize for understanding it the wrong way it was meant. You know as much as i do that misunderstandings are possible


To take what I said as an insult you would have to be incredibly stupid, Lucas. Either you are or you came looking for a fight, which is it?

As for misunderstandings being possible, occasionally, yes. As often as you do it? No, sorry, I don't buy it!
on Apr 08, 2007
To take what I said as an insult you would have to be incredibly stupid, Lucas. Either you are or you came looking for a fight, which is it?


*shrugs* I've never considered myself too bright, so maybe. Hell I don't know.



As for misunderstandings being possible, occasionally, yes. As often as you do it? No, sorry, I don't buy it!


As often as i do it? Dude, i've had how good of a reception here? No one likes me, and i can think of one person for sure, that insults me.

I'm not saying everyone is out to get me, but, given how much everyone likes me...i guess it colors comments made to me, and how i respond.

Again, I apologize for the misunderstanding.
on Apr 09, 2007
I'm not saying everyone is out to get me, but, given how much everyone likes me


Dude, you bring it on yourself.

Every. Single. Time.

When you first came back, I tried to stick up for you, hoping maybe there would be another liberal on this site that can look at things with an eye of realism, besides just shades, steven daedalus, and myself of course. (Ain't I great? )

But you just make it so easy to dislike you, when you make comment after comment of insipid, silly little remarks.
on Apr 09, 2007
I've kind of held my tongue here, because this topic, as a fat chick, kind of gets my gander. You know?

Physically, and I suppose personality-wise, too, I'm certainly no prize. I'm morbidly obese, my skin is severely sun damaged, and I'm pretty hairy for a girl, thanks to my poly-cystic ovarian syndrome. And, I've got fat knees. And everything else for that matter.

I think that my husband thinks I'm beautiful. He says so, anyway. I have a hard time believing him, because I don't see it. I think that over the past year or so I've begun to focus on what's good about me on the inside though, and I've started just liking me better all around. I'm fat. Yeah...I'm moley. Tough titties, said the kitty.

I have a husband who loves me and I love him. And even if I didn't have a husband, I think I'd be okay with me now.

B...I think I'm the opposite of you. Really hot guys...well...I'll admire their physicalities from a distance, but I would never attempt a conversation with one, because I just assume that they're going to be an asshole. I haven't ever really met a hot guy that hasn't treated me like a moron because I'm not "hot" like he is. I'm much more comfortable with average to below-average looking men. And that's okay with me. They tend to have more inner-qualities anyway, I've found.

My husband isn't the hottest guy on earth. But I think he gets cuter every day because I find out more about him each day that I love about him...does that make sense? I didn't think he was cute when we met until I got to know him...

I'm blabbering now...
on Apr 27, 2007
Now why don't you go dip yourself (and your lardy g/f) in flour and make a skank biscuit?


Class act, really, you are a class act.

You know nothing of my girlfriend. Nothing what-so-ever, and you stoop so low, as to insult her. (And yes, you implied it.) You've never met her, interacted with her, nothing.

My girlfriend is amazing, no - she is more than amazing. In fact, she is the most amazing woman i have ever met, or will ever meet. She's got many qualities that are admirable, and you know what...I love her. Bottom line, I love her, and i want to be with her for the rest of my life. That's my choice, my life. You can go take yourself and deal with your life, just back off, and get the hell off my back.

Understand?

Even if you don't, I don't give a flying rats behind.




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